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_Nihilist_ · Dec 18, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

^
O.o

This is win. If a skill is linked to an Attribute, you should need to actually invest in the Attribute to increase an aspect of the skill. Why would you use [[Hundred Blades], which has always been classified in-game as a Sword Attack, if you didn't have your Swordsmanship Attribute invested into to deal damage with your sword? I'm pretty sure that whether or not [[Triple Chop] had bonus damage associated with the skill, you wouldn't use it with a low Axe Mastery, considering you wouldn't do any DAMAGE even when TC hit if you were running a low-investement Axe Build.

Maneo Ranae · Dec 18, 2008, 12:06 PM // 12:06

It's funny how no one else thought of that lols,...

Either way, I'm loving Hundred Blades the way it is. In normal PvE, yes! It actually does some nice damage now, because whatever you hit, you'll always deal 20 damage. +40 from a 14 Strength Gash and you've got 60 on your target, 20 on everything adjacent. Which usually is alot in PvE,... Combining Flail with Hundred Blades just pwns atm, imho.

Neo Atomisk · Dec 18, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Tbh scythewar > hb still.

A Leprechaun · Dec 18, 2008, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Hundred Blades is, in its current form, a farming gimmick.
I loved the old one, why did they feel the need to totally change it?

~A Leprechaun~

bungusmaximus · Dec 18, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Hmm, lets compare, A Warrior's Endurance scythe war that does big AoE dommage EVERY hit or a sword warrior with hundred blades that only does AoE dommage when he uses hundred blades.

Lol why bother if it's for PvE. The only pro for the sword warrior is the shield.

_Nihilist_ · Dec 18, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Ouch, bungus! I'd say that [[Dragon Slash] is a pro for a Sword Warrior, with or without [[Save Yourselves! (Kurzick)].

Conjure D-Slash is still a great DPS machine to run, and with the added benefit of [[Brawling Headbutt] and [[Steelfang Slash], single-target KD lock is nice. Plus it gives me a reason to use my FDS/IDS!

zwei2stein · Dec 19, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

(btw, check farming subforum if you havent already, 100b can do smites, and is pretty fast.)

Maneo Ranae · Dec 19, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

You guys keep saying Scythewarr is big dommage,... However, I just don't get it. I've tried it myself, max damage scythe, 13 Strength;
[[Warrior's Endurance][[Eremite's Attack][[Mystic Sweep][[Protector's Strike][[Save Yourselves][[Resurrection Signet]

And.. I just can't seem to get the huge numbers you guys keep saying it produces.

Khorrax · Dec 19, 2008, 12:52 PM // 12:52

That's because you didn't add Aura of Holy Might.

Picuso · Dec 19, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

and [Asuran Scan] if needed

Maneo Ranae · Dec 19, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Actually I did add Aura of Holy Might, I was at school and the 'teacher' came around so I had to shutdown quickly xD.
I normally never put it up like that lols.

Even still, with Aura of Holy Might, I find my actual Derv doing more damage,...

Picuso · Dec 19, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maneo Ranae

Actually I did add Aura of Holy Might, I was at school and the 'teacher' came around so I had to shutdown quickly xD.
I normally never put it up like that lols.

Even still, with Aura of Holy Might, I find my actual Derv doing more damage,...

Of course, Derv with [email protected] > Warrior with [email protected]..

_Nihilist_ · Dec 19, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

You said 13 Strength on a ScytheWarr? It should be 14 Strength (Strength Helm + Minor Strength Rune) and 12 Scythe Mastery.

With [[Aura of Holy Might (Kurzick)] up, I'm generally doing 50+ damage per normal hit, getting up to 3-digit damage when using skills. That's w/o [[Asuran Scan], so yeah, the damage is there. It's REALLY fun when you run a ScytheWarr in areas infested with Undead - yellow numbers will make you smile

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Sirius-NZ · Dec 20, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Using AoHM at all does that. Lyssa dervs and scythesins will get quite a few 200-300 hits against undead as well.

_Nihilist_ · Dec 20, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

You show one build, but against the Raptors, you aren't using the same build. You have Soldier's Defense on the bar. What spread in Tactics if you are already using a 12/10/8 split for Sword/Curses/Strength? Also, it's on NM, since the Nestlings are lvl 15.

How are you aggro'ing and not getting destroyed before using Whirlwind, with no spec in Tactics for blocking?

Wild Karrde · Dec 20, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maneo Ranae

I'm inclined to disagree. It wouldn't be useful whatsoever then, sure, you can spam 2-swipes for 5 times over, making 10 hits,... Not forgetting that it'd probably be just 20 dmg per swing,... And still 5 energy, while warrs have the worst available energy management (Read: The worst available energy management if you've already got an Elite skill*)

Just cause the recharge is lowered doesn't mean you should spam it continuously like your thinking.... and a conjure worked well with the old hundred blades, and did quite good dmg like that, wasnt the best sword elite with a conjure but it was still fun.

MegaVolti · Dec 21, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

A/D > W/D > D/any for scythes
Armor penetration from Strengh is nice but dealing max damage with scythes because of Critical Strikes is simply superior. And [[Critical Agility].

Murmel · Dec 21, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

Damn.
Been gone for 4 months and you have no clue about the skill changes...
i feel like a noob again

I'm gonna try this hehe :P

Burst Cancel · Dec 21, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

I don't see how W/Ds can ever be better than D/* when they're using Warrior's Endurance as the elite.

I also see a glaring lack of Power Attack on those W/D bars. It's [email protected] on a 3s timer, why the **** aren't people using it?

Maneo Ranae · Dec 21, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Because Warrior's Endurance is a stance, you can't get an extra IAS. That's probably why all attack skills on most W/D Scythewarr bars are 1/2 & 3/4 casting time. It makes up for the lack of IAS, surely Power Attack doesn't, even though you're right about the +38 dmg =).